RULES OF FAIR CHASE

BOBSTER · 08-10-2003, 11:45 AM

I was reading the rules of fair chase and was wondering if the 65% max. was still in effect for TBBR, or did that change.

SP!KE · 08-10-2003, 03:10 PM

Thanks for pointing that out BOBSTER! That has increased, but I forgot to change it on the rules. I can't remember if it was changed to 75%, or 80% though.

Would a EC member post and let me know what the new minimum allowed for the TBBR is so I can change that?

Tomme · 08-10-2003, 10:54 PM

Spike we passed by a vote of the total membership to raise the allowable limit to.... Darn can't remember... Happens more and more these days. Pretty sure it's 80%, but as my bows are 65 it didn't effect me. It's in the magazine and my old ones are at the office. I'll let you know for sure what it is tomorrow....if I can just remember to check it at the office....LOL.

bowjunkie · 08-11-2003, 08:27 AM

Was raised to 80% on the revote.

SP!KE · 08-11-2003, 10:20 AM

:cry:

tinman · 08-13-2003, 08:22 PM

Really glad to see that change. Both my rigs are 65% anyway but I like to see everyone getting to play...gives the 'records' system more credibility I think if it includes all legal tackle.

walking eagle · 10-28-2003, 08:08 PM

Pope and Young Club is taking a membership vote to lift the 65% let off ruling, if it passes, all entries taken with equipment over the 65% will be noted with an astrick (*).
The TBBR will most likely follow suit.[/b]

Tomme · 10-31-2003, 11:28 PM

I'm glad to hear that Pope and Young is doing that. I almost think they should have several asteriks or categories. One for no let-off (i.e., recurve and longbow) one for say 65% and less and one for over 65%. Now I still don't want draw-loc and crossbows entered, so don't know where the over 65% would stop, but three categories like this with some indication that the arrow had to be drawn and held after the animal had appeared, or at the time of the shot seems like the best way to go for me.

Now if Pope and Young would get off of their high fence kick then I think we'd have it covered. I know that previous statement will be somewhat controversial to some (and personally I have some problems with high fences), but I believe the intent of fair chase is that animals are not penned and have a fair chance to evade the hunter. The TBBR rule has always been one square mile (i.e., 640 acres). I know that not all will agree, but I feel that bowhunting deer in heavy brush in a one mile square area, gives them plenty of opportunity for fair chase.

walking eagle · 11-01-2003, 05:10 PM

Tomme, B&C is changing the wording "High Fence" to "Escape Proof" and when that happens, P&Y will follow.
As far as bows go, I don't see any difference between longbow, recurve, compound. as long as you have to pull it back and make the shot, and assuming you have the "Woods Lore" and hunting skills to put yourself in the opportunity window to do so, My hats off to you.
Now when we develope a bow that you can tell to get out of the truck on that cold, nasty morning and bring back a nice 10 point, then I have a problem.
Just remember, every records system has their rules for "Entries", and they are not dictating how or what you hunt. The State Game Departments do that with game laws.

Tomme · 11-01-2003, 10:42 PM

Walking Eagle, I think you and I pretty much agree, and I loved the tell the bow to go get the deer comment.

Glad to hear that they are changing it to "Escape Proof", though wonder how that will be defined. On a hunt to one day lease last year we spooked a deer while exploring one pasture. I mean really spooked! The high fence was like 8-10 feet and the buck backed up took a running start, landed on top and flopped over. So what's escape proof?