Crossbows

bustedassranch · 06-08-2009, 05:46 PM

Now that they will be in the bow season. Are we going to start hitting them up to be members? Maybe get some crossbow sponsors? Make the best of it....

biggen · 06-09-2009, 09:32 AM

What do you suggest Kevin?!

bustedassranch · 06-09-2009, 09:48 AM

Getting some crossbows from them. Teaching the youth/public the proper way to use them. Printing out stuff for the youth events to lay on the tables with facts & myths about them. You know like you cant shoot out 70 yards on an animal. Teaching them if they choose to use them how to do it ethically. Hitting up the x-bow companies for money to help support us. I am looking at it as an open door to more resources & a chance to educate other folks about them.

bustedassranch · 06-09-2009, 05:53 PM

35 views......Dont everyone speak at once..............

DoubleJ · 06-09-2009, 07:16 PM

The Lone Star Bowhunter Association is committed to preserving and promoting BOWHUNTING in the State of Texas.

Anyone who meets the requirements of the newly passed by-laws is welcomed to join the LSBA.

5. MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMENTS: Membership shall be granted to a bowhunter or supporter who:
a. Has satisfactorily completed a membership application;
b. Has made payment of membership fees to the LSBA;
c. Follows, in the strictest sense, the Bowhunter’s Code of Ethics;
d. Hunts or supports hunting with hand held and hand drawn archery equipment (Longbows, Recurve bows or Compound Bows).

We will not be using crossbows in our youth shoots, allowing them in our 3-D tournaments, or accepting game harvested by crossbow in TBBR.

The law simply allows crossbows to be used in what once was the Special Archery season. That's fine. They won. It still doesn't make them archery equipment.

The time may come that we change these policies but that time is not now.

mitch · 06-09-2009, 11:34 PM

I do not care for crossbows, but to say they are not archery equipment is wrong. The crossbow was used long before the compound. One is vertical and one is horizontal, just a little modification to one. I agree LSBA has the right to not allow the use of crossbows at the events under their control.

tinman · 06-10-2009, 02:07 AM

BAR - the LSBA doesn't own or operate any 3D ranges. We rely on independant archery clubs to host our Regional/State shoots and most (if not all) of those clubs do not allow crossbows. I have asked on other boards and gotten no response, does anyone know of any archery clubs in Texas that currently allow crossbows on their 3D range?

Our backstops will barely stop arrows out of the 20# Genesis bows...we couldn't shoot crossbows at most youth events safely if we wanted to. For these and other safety concerns, you probably won't be seeing any crossbows at our youth events.

Also, as Jack mentioned, our role is to promote hunting with archery equipment...that hasn't changed. Some of us feel that this role could be even more important today & in the future as many hunters will simply take the fastest road to October.

As to promoting safety, responsibility, & equipment limitations to future crossbowhunters, I agree that it will be important. The IBEP/NBEF has a booklet and class specifically for crossbowhunters. I think that the LSBA should leave that to the Bowhunter Education people and TPWD to figure out.

Maybe it's time for someone to form a "Lone Star Crossbow Association" to represent all these "new hunters". I'd be happy to work side-by-side with this group to stop more weapons from being added to the October season.

Looks like www.texascrossbowhunter.com might have some answers in the near future.

bustedassranch · 06-10-2009, 11:28 AM

All I can say is wow....
I am speechless..

tinman · 06-10-2009, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bustedassranch

All I can say is wow....
I am speechless..

We know you better than that.

Please feel free to speak your mind on the topic here, after all you obviously have something to say. Without fighting & name calling, let's hear what your feelings are on the subject.

What is it that you (as a member) think that the LSBA should do?

LostHawg · 06-10-2009, 12:25 PM

The LSBA was established by bowhunters with a certain vision in mind. That vision was focused on hand held and hand drawn archery equipment. Why would we want to violate that vision?

You know this infiltration by the crossbow is a slap in the face of the founders of the LSBA and those who fought so hard to get the archery season established. Visionaries like Bob Lee, Ed Foreman, Ron Collier and others. Important contributors of the Texas archery heritage.

DEER KILLER · 06-13-2009, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostHawg

The LSBA was established by bowhunters with a certain vision in mind. That vision was focused on hand held and hand drawn archery equipment. Why would we want to violate that vision?

You know this infiltration by the crossbow is a slap in the face of the founders of the LSBA and those who fought so hard to get the archery season established. Visionaries like Bob Lee, Ed Foreman, Ron Collier and others. Important contributors of the Texas archery heritage.

I need to teach Von Evans how to use the internet.

Kyle Scott

Thump1 · 06-16-2009, 12:50 PM

This almost sounds like a defeatist attitude, like you're giving up. If Washington had had the same we would have never won our independence. I wouldn't give up and make it easy and cost free just because we lost the first few rounds. PA is working hard, they have replaced two crossbow supporters on their game commission and now have a very good chance of reversing the crossbow for money agenda in PA.

You're right about the crossbow being in the minority as support for the crossbow is not being represented by actual crossbow hunters. Its running almost 7 to 1 against the crossbow being allowed during archery seasons. This ratio also runs the same with managers of our public hunting properties. Most public land managers will work to keep the crossbow out of archery season if we just give them the support and data to do so. When they learn there are no crossbow clubs teaching crossbow safety and that crossbow safety was not taught in Hunters Ed even managers that would support the crossbow issue have second thoughts.

The NRA and ATA have to pay a price, boycott. If they don't this will never end until all 50 states are included into their crossbow for money agenda.

bustedassranch · 06-16-2009, 01:36 PM

I dont think I am giving up. & the comments about beating a dead horse & drop it & their more important things sounds more like giving up to me. If this is such a dead horse why is it such a heated topic? As far as PA goes Jack our Pres that is doing a good job I might add once said he was not keeping up with stuff in other states so I dont have much to say about them. I have & will continue to make youth shoots & get bows in the hands of kids & adults that have not shot a bow before. If people want to bash me because I have different views...thats cool we live in the best state in the best country on earth. It is their right to do that just as it is my right to post my views. I would like to remind people that this is a public forum. Everyone can read all comments on here. If you think TP&W or the same senators & reps that we write dont look on here you are a little off. I chose to post this subject here to talk to our members that do visit, but lets keep in mind not all visitors are members.
Ron I still try to bring in new members. Just ask Jack. Our guest speaker at the banquet was not a member. I took the time to give him a magazine & membership application & talked to him about becoming a member in the line after his speech.

bustedassranch · 06-10-2009, 03:08 PM

As soon as I can tastefully put it in words as to not piss off too many people I will.

BUFF · 06-10-2009, 05:27 PM

I am no longer a member of the EC so my opinion is mine and mine alone.

I do not believe that a X-bow is a bow and am very disappointed to see them in October. How ever if a kid shows up at my house wanting to learn to shoot one I will help him as best I can. That said I do the same thing with kids with their new Christmas rifle. It is not the obligation of the LSBA to train folks to shoot X bows any more than it is our responsibility to train gun hunters.